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Started: 2/29/2008 5:42 PM
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Bill
Country music and the church
I have attached the introduction of some work that I am doing on country music and the church.  Read it, if you wish.  I dare you to read it!
Posted: 3/1/2008 11:50 AM
I dared to read it!
Bill,
  Interesting thoughts!  I enjoy most types of music; to exclude a genre because of its particular label would mean missing out on some really great music!  Classical music soothes the soul; country music tells stories; etc.  I like music that is harmonious (some is not!) and lifts me up!
So, I have many genres on my IPOD and listen to it whenever I get the chance.  Right now I have been listening to Olivia Newton John's music of Gratitude; it shifts me into a truly thankful mode.
   If you have never visited the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville, I highly recommend it.  It is a great place.
     I have known many people who do not attend a church to be very Christ-like with very high morals and ethics that would do anything for you; I also know many people who attend church on a regular basis but are very judgmental and do not live a very Christian life outside of church.  So....we have to be careful when we use a label to describe people/music/ whatever.
Posted: 3/1/2008 11:54 AM
I dared to read it!
Bill,
  Interesting thoughts!  I enjoy most types of music; to exclude a genre because of its particular label would mean missing out on some really great music!  Classical music soothes the soul; country music tells stories; etc.  I like music that is harmonious (some is not!) and lifts me up!
So, I have many genres on my IPOD and listen to it whenever I get the chance.  Right now I have been listening to Olivia Newton John's music of Gratitude; it shifts me into a truly thankful mode.
   If you have never visited the Country Music Hall of Fame in Nashville, I highly recommend it.  It is a great place.
     I have known many people who do not attend a church to be very Christ-like with very high morals and ethics that would do anything for you; I also know many people who attend church on a regular basis but are very judgmental and do not live a very Christian life outside of church.  So....we have to be careful when we use a label to describe people/music/ whatever.
Posted: 3/1/2008 10:58 PM
kevin carey
I remember discussing in a small group setting, at a former church, the Unity festival specifically, but christian music generally. We had been talking about who all was planning on attending the Unity fest down at Heritage Landing that particular summer. Most of the group were actually not really into it. The guys of that group were either simply not into the concert scene or found the genre "boring". For a classic rock act though, they probably all would of gone.
I think people that brainwash themselves into thinking that "christian" music of whatever period is the only worthy music for people of faith (christians), are not quite letting their elevators make it to the top floor, so to speak.
 
That feeling of transendence - communing with God - can occur in listening to Mozart's 40th symphony, a Tanya Tucker song, a lyric from U2, or a line from Tupac.
 
Country music. . . white people's soul music? Don't know if i care for a race-based or stereo-typical label - art knows no boundaries in terms of sex, race or religion, in my opinion.
Posted: 3/2/2008 7:58 AM
Bill
Wow! I like your comments.  Country music is listened to by all kinds of people.  Many black folks listened to it years ago because it was the only thing that was publicly performed.  But for the most part, black folks have not seen country music as their "soul music."  But I appreciate your desire not to stereotype.
Posted: 3/3/2008 10:28 AM
kevin carey
Bill, I loved what your paper was about. I hope my post didn't come across as judgemental or combative.
 
My point was / is: Soul is an established musical genre, for the most part comprising black artists, but certainly not limited to that in artists or listeners (its one of my favorite genres). I think referring to country-western as "white soul" is akin to referring to african rythm music as "black classical", in example.
 
My opinion simply, i dislike Tex Sample's attempt at a label. Country music is not soul music in the sense I consider Soul music to be, nor is it limited to white working class americans. It tells stories, which speaks to its listeners who tend to relate to it on personal levels, as Blues does, as so many musical genres do.
 
Happy listening! :-)
Posted: 7/15/2008 12:21 PM
Penny
I have been debating this subject for years!  Some of the BEST spiritual music is found in the "secular" world!  To limit yourself only to music that is labled "christian" is the same as limiting yourself to the same foods all the time, or never traveling outside your hometown.  When we limit these choices in our lives, we limit our understanding of others.  You can't put God in a box - you can't limit him to one type of anything.  I believe it is very dangerous to do that.  The moment we think we understand God is the moment we become most vulnerable to catastrophe.
 
There is a lot of wonderful Christian music.  I'm sure that people who prefer that type of music over all others have good, sound reasons for it.  I'm sure it provides more comfort than other types of music.  And it is a FANTASTIC way to get the Word out to the youth of the world.  Although, I do hope and pray that the people who prefer that music aren't limiting themselves to the wonderful world of Country music, or ANY other music where the spirit of God is felt.
 
There are a lot of songs in the world which are not spiritual at all, almost corrosive, at times, to one's spirituality.  But there are many, many, many songs that are played on secular radio stations that are quite obviously spiritual songs.
 
I agree with Bill, that Country music seems to confront the very nature of every day life and the questions that arise.  I think that a lot of people don't like it for that reason - it's TOO raw for them.  A lot of people would rather not confront those internal questions, for themselves, or anybody else.
 
While I, too, listen to all types of music (my IPod is almost humorous because of the diversity of music) I am partial to Country.  Country music is the type of music I grew up with.  It is the music I prefer and the music which stirs my soul most often.  It reminds me of my childhood, of my father's childhood - an era LONG gone in American history - and, simply put - it makes me feel happy to be alive.  Aside from Christian music I have found that there are more spiritual undertones in Country music than any other - which provide me with the kind of comfort I need in life.
 
I am so grateful that God shows himself in so may different ways.  I think it would be AWESOME to see a list of all the different "spiritual", yet "secular" songs that people know of.  I know of SEVERAL if anybody wants a list!
 
God Bless!
Posted: 3/11/2009 5:40 PM
Scotch
Bill,  How's the book on "country music" going, any progress?